How to be Brave, Bold & Ballsy to Achieve Abundance

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This is Women Road warriors with Shelly Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.

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From the corporate office to the cab of a truck, they're here to inspire and empower women in all professions.

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Welcome.

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We're an award winning show dedicated to empowering women in every profession through inspiring stories and expert insights.

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No topics off limits.

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On our show, we power women on the road to success with expert and celebrity interviews and information you need.

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I'm Shelley.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:00:43

And I'm Kathy.

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Have you ever just wanted to go for it without any hesitation and just pursue that dream of yours with no regrets?

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Merav Rosenberg spends her time showing women how.

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She's a highly sought after consultant and speaker who teaches women how to be brave, bold and ballsy.

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How women can grow a pair and take charge of their dreams.

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She talks about the muscle of self worth and succeeding without sacrifice.

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Merav has proven she knows how.

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She spent over 17 years in digital marketing, design and business.

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She's the founder and CEO of the Paz Agency and Paas Interactive where she works with clients that range from health and wellness to real estate to nonprofits.

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She helps them unlock their potential and digital presence.

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Merav brings an energy and inspiration to everything she touches.

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We have the honor of having her on the show with us to hear some of her insights.

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Welcome, Merov.

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Thank you for being with us.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:01:43

Thank you so much for having me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:01:45

Shelly and Kathy, I'm very, very happy to be here and thank you for doing all this amazing work.

Shelly Johnson: 00:01:52

Well, thank you.

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And we're excited.

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Oh my goodness.

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Merav, you know, you've got some serious perspectives.

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We want to know more about what has driven you to evolve the way you have.

Shelly Johnson: 00:02:02

I mean, this is super impressive.

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Tell us about yourself.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:05

So I'm 42 and I think it's an important part because I have two 16 year olds, twins, boy and a girl, where I think is very, very challenging.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:17

And I'm enjoying my time.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:19

Alas, at this time, I have a 10 year old.

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I think that I've always wanted to be a mother.

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And I was born in Israel.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:31

I was religious, Jewish, religious, Orthodox, living in Jerusalem.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:38

And at a very young age, my father, who was a diplomat from the Ministry of Finance, got relocated to New York City.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:47

So from Little Israel, we moved to New York City when I was 7, did not know anybody and obviously it was an amazing experience.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:02:58

However, my father died in a tragic car accident when I was 10.

Shelly Johnson: 00:03:04

Oh, so sorry.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:03:06

Thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:03:08

Yeah.

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I think as a child learning that, you know, your father will not be in your life Anymore had triggered something in me.

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And I really feel like that was the first time probably where you.

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You are old enough to make a choice.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:03:30

You're old enough to make a choice, whether it is that you are going to take this tragedy and really be a victim and say, oh my God, this happened to me, or that you can take a tragedy like this and say, okay, it's very sad what happened, but how do I move on from this?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:03:54

And I call this a moment of choice.

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I say this a lot in many of the things that I have dealt with along in my life.

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But there is a moment where something really big happens.

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And today I don't even call it bad or good, but something happens, and then you have a choice.

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You have a choice to choose.

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Joy.

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Whatever the problem was, whatever happened to you, you still have a choice.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:27

Will it be difficult?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:29

Yes.

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Will it be sad?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:31

Oh, my God.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:33

And it never, I think, ends being sad, but I think that you have a choice.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:39

And when we talked about the fact that, you know, ballsy, I think it's unfortunately a manly term, but it's kind of okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:04:51

Being a person that chooses very easily is a trait that most people give to men.

Shelly Johnson: 00:04:59

Yes, ma'am.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:01

Men choose easier than women usually.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:06

So I think, like, from a very young age, I knew that I had to make choices.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:11

I knew that I had to make decisions, and that's what we did.

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And I think I've always seen my mom as.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:20

As someone who also makes decisions very easily, is someone who has always been a career woman.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:29

And I did see that, you know, you have a lot of strength for making your own choices.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:36

And so at that point of time, I think that's when I realized that there is a difference between what you choose and what you get to have in your life when making choices like that.

Shelly Johnson: 00:05:53

Why do you think men make choices more easily than women?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:05:58

Well, I think initially they're giving more confidence than women since, like, forever.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:06:08

You know, Like, I really feel that if we look at history, right, and if we have stories in our mind that we do, then we can definitely see that men are given more responsibility.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:06:24

I mean, look at America.

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If there ever is a choice between a man and a woman, it doesn't really matter who it will be.

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They usually choose men.

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And I think that choice given over and over and over again does.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:06:41

Cause I think self confidence with every woman, especially with women who are raising women.

Shelly Johnson: 00:06:50

Very true.

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And you know, even if it isn't talked about, it's this underlying knowledge or thought, the cultural inclination to favor Men, I mean, as a little girl, girls see this, you know, it's.

Shelly Johnson: 00:07:04

It's all conditioned, isn't it?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:07:07

It is conditioned.

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And I think that I must say about me that the power does not interest me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:07:16

I'm not a very competitive person.

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I'm more friendly, loving, want a lot of people to be happy, kind of a healer, service provider person.

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And I think that power does not interest me at all.

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It doesn't make me tick.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:07:37

It doesn't.

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And I think that men specifically do have that kind of sense and with that kind of take that power in their hands.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:07:47

And I think we just somehow during history, we gave it to them.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:07:54

I don't know how.

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I don't know how.

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But we did.

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But we did.

Shelly Johnson: 00:07:59

Yes.

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Very patriarchal.

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Patron.

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Linear, if you will.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:08:03

Exactly.

Shelly Johnson: 00:08:04

Yep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:08:05

And I think that this is our time.

Shelly Johnson: 00:08:08

Amen to that.

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So do we.

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Onward, onward we ride, Right?

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Absolutely.

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So you were able Merov, you had some serious tragedy at a very early age.

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And going from Israel to a huge city like New York City.

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Oh my.

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You really had to adapt.

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Do you think that that helped maybe galvanize your goals and give you the strength you needed?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:08:36

I think.

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And I did the same thing, like for my children as well, opening up Paz Agency in New York.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:08:44

I took.

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We.

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Obviously after my dad's tragedy, we did move back to Israel.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:08:50

And I spent many of my childhood and adulthood in Israel, finding my ex husband and having three kids here.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:01

And then I thought to myself that the experience of relocating to such an amazing, amazing city.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:09

And I always say this, I say this to my new fiance.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:14

I say to him, listen, I love you, okay?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:17

Right after my children.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:19

And then it's New York and then it's chatgpt.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:22

Just so that you know that I have like this order and really like now, like I have a new obsession.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:30

ChatGPT.

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But it was New York before and, and tomorrow, my love, he's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:36

He's before those.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:38

But I actually love New York so much and I fell in love with it as a child and I always say it was, it was kind of.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:09:46

I don't know how it's.

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Either you love New York or you.

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Or you're like.

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Or you don't.

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But when you love New York, it's like.

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It's like you're cheating.

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I.

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I really feel that way because it's such a.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:01

It's.

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It's.

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It's so infatuating.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:03

And that's what I felt as a child.

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It was you being in a.

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In a place where, where there's so many opportunities and so many choices.

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And I love that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:17

I love having many choices and I love having opportunities.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:21

And I think finding that from a small, small, tiny country and you know, even, even being English is my second language, right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:30

Hebrew is my first language.

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And English is, is a main key to, to, I think, success, especially when you come from such like our country is like 9 million people.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:10:43

That's it.

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And so going into a place with like 300, 400 million people, right?

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It's the opportunities multiply.

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And I've always been a numbers game.

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My father is in economic and I've always been into numbers.

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And so you really have to give yourself as many opportunities as you can.

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And I think that's what New York symbolizes to me.

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And then I took my ex husband and three kids with me on.

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On a journey to New York.

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And I think that they are different people due to that because the adaptation.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:11:24

And I think that's what we all, by the way, need, right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:11:28

I mean, how do you succeed in life?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:11:31

The way that you are flexible in your mind, the ways that you adapt to situations and problems and.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:11:39

Yeah, so from a very young age, I had that kind of lesson, you know, of adapting, adapting to this, adapting to tragedy, adapting to change.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:11:51

So much change in my life has occurred, and I feel like this has given me optimism.

Shelly Johnson: 00:12:01

You have some really serious wisdom for 42.

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A lot of people at 42 still really don't know what they want to do when they grow up.

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And the fact that you saw opportunity at such a young age, you saw a whole new world.

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You knew there was more out there, there was more potential, more opportunities.

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And the fact that you were able to grasp it, that took bravery, tenacity, all of the above.

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And I love what you're doing in terms of showing women they can do it too.

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And I love brave, bold and ballsy.

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I mean, it really.

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This is powerful.

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How women can grow a pair and take charge of their dreams.

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How do they do that?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:12:43

I think there is a kind of a plan.

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And like I said, I'm a numbers woman.

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Okay.

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Like, I love.

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I think that digital marketing, by the way, is a numbers game.

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I mean, sales is a numbers game.

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I feel like we're all like this whole world is.

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Is math okay?

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And that's like a very, very spiritual level.

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But I feel like we're all just playing a numbers game.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:13:10

And, and having said that, yes, numbers is kind of a man or a male quality, I believe.

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And as soon as you tap in to understanding that this Is just a numbers game.

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Meaning, let's give an example.

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Okay?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:13:31

If you are afraid of rejection, which all of us are, all of us are afraid of rejection.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:13:40

But if you're a person that's afraid of rejection, all you have to do is think of it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:13:45

In regards to numbers, if you have, I would say 10, like, I help people, especially, obviously women date, okay?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:13:57

It's, it's not something that I do professionally, but because I took 60 dates to find my fiance on apps, okay, Which a lot of people hate doing and a lot of people are afraid of rejection.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:14:14

I usually come up to a lady and I ask her, listen, out of 10 men that you dated, how many said no to you and how many have you said no to them?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:14:26

And the numbers are almost always the same.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:14:30

Probably eight of the men that she said no to and two said no to her.

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And so if you think of it in regards to numbers, wait, did I actually just get rejected or is this like a normal part of life and it's just a numbers game?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:14:50

And the way that I look at life is just, okay, I'm gonna try and do this.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:14:59

I'm gonna see what comes out of it.

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I'm not attached to the result of it.

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I won't be disappointed or heartbroken.

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And I think that's more of a man or a male quality.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:15

And that's why I say ballsy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:17

And I also have like a very great laid out plan of how I do things.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:24

And I think that takes away of all my thinking that it won't work.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:31

I just have a plan.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:34

I have an Excel sheet, I have a Word document, I have a task list, and I just go by the plan, plan.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:42

And if you go by the plan and you take away, I think the kind of, you know, like feeling of, oh, my God, I'm going to like fail or get rejected, then everything will work out amazingly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:15:58

And if you try that three times, I'm sure it's going to be a method for you as well.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:16:03

And I'm sure, absolutely sure that you're going to see results from what you just did.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:16:11

So that's kind of my, my way of thinking how I actually help women implement this is by actually giving them out the plan, but this is by, by having to build a business or two, having to do like a US Visa for my, my agency, having so many business plans done for other people.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:16:38

It was super easy for me to say, okay, what's your goal?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:16:44

And let's take away the fear of rejection of that goal, and let's have a plan so you think less about the rejection.

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Mayrov Rosenberg believes that resilience and adaptability are the keys to thriving in both our personal and professional lives.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:09

She learned to adapt as a child following the tragic loss of her father.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:13

She learned choices and decisions must be made.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:16

It's up to you if you decide to be a victim or you take a tragedy and say, it's sad, but how do I move on from this?

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:25

A moment of choice is what Mayroff calls this.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:28

Something happens and you have a choice to choose joy.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:32

She believes in choosing joy no matter what.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:35

How you succeed in life is how you adapt to situations.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:39

It's all a numbers game.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:41

You need to Analyze your risk and lay out your plan to win.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:45

If you go by your plan, you'll see results.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:48

Determine your goal and remove the fear of rejection of that goal.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:52

Create a plan where you think less about the rejection and you'll get where you want to go.

Shelly Johnson: 00:19:57

Mehrov is a highly sought after consultant and speaker who teaches women how to be brave, bold and ballsy.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:05

She gives them back their power.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:07

She's the founder and CEO of the Paz Agency and Paas Interactive where she works with clients that range from health and wellness to real estate and nonprofits.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:16

She helps businesses unlock their potential and digital presence.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:20

With over 17 years of digital marketing, design and business, Merov's mission is clear.

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To show women they're enough just as they are.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:30

We're enjoying her powerful insights.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:33

Mayroff, your detail about making a plan makes so much sense.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:38

It puts us in a more logical mindset.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:42

We rule with our head, not our heart.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:44

Because a lot of times if you take things emotionally, you're gonna be discouraged.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:49

Like you were talking about rejection.

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:51

If you look at it as a game of odds, a game of numbers, you keep at something, eventually it's gonna be your turn, right?

Shelly Johnson: 00:20:58

You're gonna win, you're gonna win, you're gonna win.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:01

But you also have to believe that you're gonna win.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:03

And I think that that's the most difficult part.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:07

But like I said, the, the things that take you back are the overthinking, which is totally, totally figureoutable by a really good laid plan.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:23

And like I said, if you think of the world as a numbers game, I think that you would understand.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:29

Like, I have this client, she's a sales, a.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:32

She's like a sales expert.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:34

And she said, I used to work in Australia, right in the carts.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:38

And I, I would, I would write down like how many people said no to me and how many people said yes to me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:48

So it came to like a place where in the beginning it was one out of six.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:53

So what I thought to myself, all I need to get is another six to have another sale.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:21:59

So this is exactly, I think, how we should think of life.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:02

It's just how many people do I need to reach out to in order to get what I want?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:10

And you don't know those numbers initially, but as soon as one says yes to you, then you have kind of an understanding.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:21

And I got this, by the way, from the digital marketing world that I do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:25

I do so many sponsored ads for so many clients, whether it's Facebook or Instagram or Google.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:32

And the only Way that you know if you're doing well is by measuring results.

Shelly Johnson: 00:22:38

Yep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:39

Yep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:40

And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:41

And as soon as you measure a result, I mean, you're not attached to a creative banner.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:48

I have 20 creative banners that I do for each campaign.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:52

I don't care if one succeeds and one doesn't.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:22:56

I just want to know what works.

Shelly Johnson: 00:22:58

Sure.

Shelly Johnson: 00:22:59

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:00

And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:01

And I feel like, again, this is unfortunately kind of a ballsy aspect of it, but I had to learn very quickly on.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:11

To be ballsy.

Shelly Johnson: 00:23:13

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:14

Well.

Shelly Johnson: 00:23:15

And to open an agency in New York City.

Shelly Johnson: 00:23:17

That's a very competitive town.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:20

It is.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:21

But I remember everyone asking me, so why are you going to be different?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:28

And I said, well, because I'm me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:32

And I think that's another.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:34

You came to.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:36

I think the most important part of what I do for women, and I think for.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:43

And this is for women, but I think for all.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:48

But women need.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:50

Need more help in, In.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:53

In understanding how special they really, really are.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:23:57

I feel like we're like the most special race.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:00

Like, really, seriously.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:01

It's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:02

It's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:02

We're.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:03

We're amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:04

We're absolutely amazing.

Shelly Johnson: 00:24:06

I think so, too.

Shelly Johnson: 00:24:07

We bring a lot to the table.

Shelly Johnson: 00:24:09

We really sure do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:10

You bring light to the table.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:12

Okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:13

Literally.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:16

And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:16

And I feel like we're super, super special.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:19

And what I really.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:21

This is exactly what I said when I was interviewed for getting a US Visa.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:27

Right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:28

With my business.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:29

And she asked me there.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:31

It's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:31

It's very competitive what you do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:33

There's so many people in your field, and I always say you do not have to be even the best, but you do have to be the nicest.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:44

One of my, My, My kind of mindset, how I work.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:49

But also I said, but there's only one me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:53

And I think this is the main thing that I tell every woman.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:24:58

There's only one you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:00

There will never, ever be anyone like you, Shelley, and anyone like you, Kathy, in the whole entire universe, ever, ever, ever.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:13

And the qualities that you bring in to what you do is the reason that you do what you do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:22

And I feel like purpose is.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:26

Is.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:27

Is supposed to be easily obtained.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:29

If you're good at something, then there's a reason for.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:34

For it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:35

And don't, like, downplay it, you know, like showcase it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:43

Make sure that people understand that that is what you love to do and, And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:51

And tell everybody about it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:25:53

And that's what's going to make you understand who you really are.

Shelly Johnson: 00:25:59

What do you say to a woman who says, I, I want to do this, but in My particular career field, it's male dominated and the glass ceiling is really thick.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:10

Um, change locations, change a job.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:14

I really would say that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:16

I know that is super ballsy, but I feel like if someone says that they're not hurting enough.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:24

The reason why I have an agency is because me and my ex husband had a very difficult relationship.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:34

It wasn't, it wasn't a great one starting out.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:38

And I at when my twins were three months old, I was obviously on maternity leave and I couldn't go back to the job that I did because I did want to take care of them and I needed to find a different one.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:26:54

But it was, we had a very, very bad relationship at the time and having twins did not, I think, help that even more.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:04

But I was in love with my children and I knew that I needed to be financially independent and so I started working in the mornings and at nights just to have the financial freedom that I needed.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:21

And I think that you could always go and do better if you know what you want to do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:32

So if you have an example, that would be an amazing thing to talk about.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:39

But as for women having so many options, and this is me speaking out of my digital marketing kind of expertise, right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:50

I have seen so many different women entrepreneurs.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:27:57

Whether it's interior design, whether it's hr, whether it's female oriented, anything, E commerce, stores, cbd, whatever.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:28:09

I have seen it all.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:28:11

And I feel like a lot of people don't know how many options are out there, how many hybrid jobs there are out there, how many people need the expertise that you don't even appreciate about you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:28:26

And so what I would do is make a list, a list of all the things that I love to do and a list of all the things that I'm good at, by the way.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:28:37

They don't have to be, you know, like the same at all.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:28:41

But I feel like when you go and find something that you're also good at but also love to do, that's where the abundance comes from.

Shelly Johnson: 00:28:52

That makes sense.

Shelly Johnson: 00:28:54

I think a lot of people have a hard time identifying that.

Shelly Johnson: 00:28:57

Even if you ask somebody what do you like about yourself?

Shelly Johnson: 00:29:00

It's amazing.

Shelly Johnson: 00:29:01

Especially women hold those shy back, they don't want to, they feel like it's bragging and you gotta like yourself first.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:09

Wow.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:11

This is a story about my little girl.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:14

She's going to be 10 tomorrow actually.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:17

But probably a year ago, after I started healing myself and on a spiritual journey, she came up to me and we used to do five good things before she went to sleep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:33

Meaning every night before she went to sleep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:36

And this is due to me picking her up from school, I think in first grade.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:40

And she's saying everything was boring.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:42

I said, no, no, no, no, we're changing this.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:45

You're not telling me everything is boring.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:46

Life is amazing, and you're going to find out how much.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:50

And every night we started to do five good things before she went to sleep.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:29:55

And one night, and I always started because she always wanted me to start.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:00

And one night I said, well, I worked out in the morning, I ate very well today, very healthy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:07

I said to her, I had a great meeting with an amazing new client.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:12

And then at number four, I said, and I love myself.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:16

And then she says, mom, you're supposed to love me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:20

And I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:23

Mom has made a huge mistake.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:26

I have to explain to you something before you love me, you love you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:32

Before I love you, I love me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:36

And this is right when you go on a plane and there's this.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:42

The, the flight attendant is explaining what happens in case of an emergency, right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:47

If the oxygen masks comes down, who does she say?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:51

That you have to put it on first.

Shelly Johnson: 00:30:54

Yourself.

Shelly Johnson: 00:30:55

Certainly like in the case of a parent, you put it on yourself first so you can help your child.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:30:59

Yeah, exactly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:00

And this is exactly the same analogy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:03

You have to love yourself first.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:07

Otherwise how are you going to love everybody else?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:11

And how are you going to have the space?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:13

How are you going to have the, the how do you know?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:16

It's like Oprah saying, be so full of yourself that you're overflowing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:20

Right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:21

And what she means is that you have to love yourself because when you're full and full of love, full of your self love, then all you want to do is love everybody else.

Shelly Johnson: 00:31:35

That's true.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:36

And there's, and there's obviously the other side of it, right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:39

When, when you don't have self love and you're hurting, what do you do?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:44

Most people that are hurt?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:46

Those are the people that hurt others.

Shelly Johnson: 00:31:48

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:49

Not the people who love themselves.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:51

Definitely not the people who love themselves.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:54

They're not the one who do the hurting.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:31:57

And so one of the things that I would love it is if we teach our children and if we teach, you know, kids at school that self love is the most important thing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:12

It's the most important thing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:14

With this we can, we can do so much.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:17

And I think like you asked about a person who is in a place where is male dominated.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:23

Like, like if you don't have a seat in the table, then Go get a different table.

Shelly Johnson: 00:32:29

I like that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:30

Thank you.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:32:31

Yeah, me too.

Shelly Johnson: 00:32:32

That's a great slogan.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:33

Thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:34

I think I've heard it somewhere, so I'm not taking all the.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:38

But I don't remember where.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:39

But it's a.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:40

It's an amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:41

It's an amazing phrase.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:43

If you don't have a seat at the table, go get your own table.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:47

And I think I did not do this starting out.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:53

I had an amazing woman boss, which is still one of my best friends.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:32:58

Starting off when I was a market marketing director at a theater hall, that's how I started, kind of my marketing way.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:06

And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:07

And she was just like an amazing, confident, loving woman who just gave me really so much opportunity to do my own thing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:19

And when it came time and I had my side business that grew to, you know, like, be way more beneficial than working full time for someone, then I just left just due to that, because I found something that I love and that I'm good at and that I can be of service to other people.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:46

And it was kind of, you know, high, high abundance.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:51

Oh, my God.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:51

I didn't even expect it to be that amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:33:57

The scaling that took a little more planning.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:00

But really, I feel like life is still full of opportunity.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:06

You really have to just make sure that you're ready for it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:10

And like you said, people don't even like themselves or people don't even know what they want to do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:15

And I think that's the first thing that people should know.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:18

What is it that you want to do?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:21

You.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:21

And some people, when, when they don't know how to answer that, that's when I ask, what are you good at and what do you love to do?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:28

Even if it's a hobby, what do you love to do?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:31

And I sometimes, most of the time find the correlation between the two.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:37

And then from my, you know, like, fully seen, so many businesses come alive through me, with me offer my expertise of how, how can you do this and that?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:53

What are your first steps?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:55

How do we start the plan?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:34:57

But it's first understanding that what it is that you want to do, then obviously when you know what you want to do, you'll find those opportunities you didn't even expect.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:35:08

Just because you're focused on a specific.

Shelly Johnson: 00:35:11

Goal and that sets you on a path of a passion and purpose when you think about it.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:35:18

And I think people get lost in the, the illusions that life throws at, at us every single day by all the distractions, especially living in this day and age, as opposed to, you know, myself growing up in the 80s.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:35:34

And it's so easy to remain in that comfort zone and that, you know, humdrum of everyday life that they forget about what it is they really wanted to begin with and they fall into this routine or get stuck in a rut that they can't seem to get out of.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:35:52

I use pothole pitfalls quite often because in my talks, because you see those big potholes in the road and you try to avoid them, which is on the road of life.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:05

But sometimes you fall in one and you're like, damn, how do I get out?

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:09

How do I do this?

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:10

But all it takes is for you to stop and actually reassess your life.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:18

What is it you want?

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:20

What is it that you want the most?

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:22

And how did I somehow get sidetracked?

Kathy Tucaro: 00:36:25

I think a lot of personal reflection is key to change.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:31

I completely, completely agree.

Shelly Johnson: 00:36:34

Well said.

Shelly Johnson: 00:36:35

Yes.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:35

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:35

Very, very well said.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:37

I think that even if we fall.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:42

Okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:42

Which is.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:43

Is something that I think we're programmed to do, by the way, like, I agreed.

Shelly Johnson: 00:36:50

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:51

I'm living in one of the most dangerous, I think, places in the world.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:57

Really.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:36:58

And they keep telling us that, right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:02

Dude, I know.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:03

Like, I know.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:05

I know where I'm living.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:06

But we have a constant news reminder.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:11

We have constant places showing us how dangerous it is all over the world.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:19

And it would be difficult for me to keep on being so joyful and optimistic if I decided, by the way, decided to look at it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:32

And sometimes it's inevitable.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:35

But like I said in the beginning of our conversation, there is something that I write in my gratitude notes every morning.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:45

Thank you for choosing joy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:37:48

And it's something that I keep on reminding myself because what I do focus on, I can attract and I can magnetized.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:38:01

And I am making sure that that is what I'm doing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:38:06

And so if I fall into a hole, then part of it is learning how to get out of that hole.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:38:16

And maybe the part of getting out of the hole is something that I will need for the future not to fall in bigger holes.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:27

Yeah, here's something interesting.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:29

I needed a shower curtain, so I just grabbed whatever one that I.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:33

That I found, and I ended up.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:36

I didn't use it as a shower curtain.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:38

It's literally on my wall, sitting right beside me in my office, and it says, find joy in your journey.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:38:47

So on this shower curtain, what I've done is I've put pictures and gifts and cards and moments of all my travels on my journey that I have found joy in.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:02

And I have messages, I have reminders I have met.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:07

I've traveled the world.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:08

I've seen so many people.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:09

I've done so much that this is my journey.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:13

And this.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:13

On the days that I'm feeling that I'm not making a difference, that I'm not feeling very good personally, I look at my wall and I read these messages, and I look at the happiness and the joy of the people that I've been gifted to be in the presence of, and it really gets me out of my own rut.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:35

It helps catapult me back onto where I need to be and say, all right, woman, that's enough of that.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:39:40

Get moving.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:42

That's amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:43

It's amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:44

And really, if you think about it, if you didn't have that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:49

Right, that journey that you did, or.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:51

Or it's not the first time that we fell.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:54

Right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:54

It's definitely not the first time, but the fact of the matter is that you kept on going.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:39:59

For you to have this wall, if you would have stayed stuck, then.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:05

Then the wall wouldn't have existed.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:40:08

That's right.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:40:09

That's right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:10

And so, like, I feel like this.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:12

This journey that we all are taking.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:15

And I saw Viola Davis saying this with Oprah Winfrey, two of my favorites, by the way.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:21

And she said, I know that joy and peace are not a destination.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:28

They're a journey.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:30

And I felt that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:31

I completely felt that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:32

And I said, okay, no destination.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:35

Just like a journey.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:37

And that's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:38

That's.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:38

It's difficult sometimes to think of it in regards to, like, where are we going?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:44

And like you said, we're all kind of.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:45

Kind of lost.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:47

So if we all know and we have that collective feeling of, okay, we're all lost, let's help you find your way.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:40:55

If we all can do a little bit of, like, helping someone find his way back home to him, to her, I think that's what we're here for.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:07

So it's.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:07

It's a.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:08

A journey.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:09

We need to exercise the Joy gps, essentially, so that we stay on track.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:14

Right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:15

Exactly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:16

Exactly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:17

I couldn't have said it better.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:18

Joy gps.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:19

Definitely.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:20

Joy gps.

Shelly Johnson: 00:41:21

It's a good one, Shelly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:23

It's a great one, Shelly.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:25

It's an amazing one.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:29

There's definitely.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:30

Enjoy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:31

I'm writing that down.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:41:32

That's good.

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Welcome back to Women's Road warriors with Shelly Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.

Shelly Johnson: 00:42:53

In order to win the game of life, you need to believe that you're going to win.

Shelly Johnson: 00:42:58

If you keep at something long enough, you'll get results.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:01

You need to lay out a really good plan.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:04

Don't give in to the things that get you off track, like the overthinking Think of the world as a numbers game.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:10

This is just some of the insight of Merav Rosenberg.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:13

How many people do we need to reach out to to get what we want to get that?

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:17

Yes, it's a matter of figuring that out.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:20

The only way you know you're doing well is by measuring results.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:23

And as soon as you can measure a result, you'll know what works.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:27

It's the predictable law of averages and the analytics of life.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:31

Mayroff teaches this and many other things to women.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:34

She wants women to know how amazing they truly are and that they can accomplish what they need.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:40

She teaches the muscle of self worth and succeeding without sacrifice.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:45

She encourages women to be brave, bold and ballsy and take charge of their dreams.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:50

And to remember there's only one you and the qualities that you bring are the reason you do what you do.

Shelly Johnson: 00:43:57

Showcase your strengths, never downplay them.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:00

Make a list of things you love to do and a list of the things where you excel.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:04

That's where the abundance comes from.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:06

You can determine your direction and where you shine.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:09

You'll find the opportunities you didn't even expect just because you're focused.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:14

Also, if you don't have a seat at the table, go get your own table.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:18

With over 17 years in digital marketing, design and business, Mehrov's mission is clear.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:23

To show women they're enough just as they are.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:27

She's got some incredible insight.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:29

I especially love her interpretation of the joy journey.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:32

And to help people find their way, she heads us in the right direction.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:36

That's why I mentioned a joy gps.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:39

I don't know what made me think of that.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:41

But Mehrov does provide the GPS for Joy with everything she's doing.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:46

Don't you think so too, Mehrov?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:44:48

It's so, it's so important.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:44:51

But how do you find.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:44:52

By the way, just like a side note, how do you find joy on gps?

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:58

I don't know.

Shelly Johnson: 00:44:58

We need to create it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:00

No, you need to even write it down.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:02

Right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:02

You need to know that that's what you're looking for.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:04

Then you need to place it on the GPS that like GPS take me to see to the place where you think I need to go.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:12

No, no.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:13

And most people, I like that it's like, okay, like life will.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:18

No, no, no.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:19

You need to know where you want to go.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:21

And so having said that could enjoy in your gps, put it in, make sure that that's on your list of goals.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:30

And I, I promise you it's not in like 90% of the people on their GBS.

Shelly Johnson: 00:45:37

You know that perspective would so improve the world, wouldn't it?

Shelly Johnson: 00:45:40

We get rid of a lot of angry negative people if they could find the joy that's naturally within themselves.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:47

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:47

It's our birth given right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:49

I think to be joyful.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:50

And I think we're programmed to totally different by so many reasons.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:45:55

So, so, so many reasons really to, to place instead of like peace and instead of like joy and instead of love, fear.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:05

And I think that we should, we should just be acknowledging this, that there is a whole spectrum between fear and love and everything that's in between.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:18

And if you're too fearful, then you're not trusting enough that everything will be okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:26

And that happens for a reason, by the way.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:29

It happens for a reason.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:30

It happens from your life events.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:32

Like I said, you always have to be mindful to choose joy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:37

And also I think one of the things that I would have loved that someone would have told me early on, hi, life isn't easy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:50

It's not supposed to be easy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:53

Go.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:54

It's supposed to be joyful.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:55

It's not supposed to be easy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:46:57

Go live your life.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:00

I wish someone would have told me that because I think my interpretation of like life is supposed to be amazing for me and then finding out that it's not was more devastating.

Shelly Johnson: 00:47:13

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:13

And as soon as you figure that out that then, then life gets better because okay, that's fine.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:21

It doesn't have to be easy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:23

I have to work for it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:25

But if I work for it, then things, great things will happen.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:30

If I choose joy, I work for my want, need goal, then that would be amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:38

I think where it really.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:40

I've been to India twice in the last year and I felt that they don't even know what to ask for.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:49

They do not have the privileges that we do to ask for what we know how to ask for.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:47:58

It was a very spiritual awakening for me to understand how other people live, how, how some poverty is like unbelievable.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:11

And it gave me again another sense of gratitude, of like, oh my God.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:18

Yeah.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:18

I went to India in: 2018

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:21

I was in Delhi for a week and I was just shell shocked.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:24

I was just like, oh my gosh.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:26

Right.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:26

Just.

Kathy Tucaro: 00:48:27

Yeah, it was very much an eye opener.

Shelly Johnson: 00:48:30

Yeah.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:30

And Delhi is a main city.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:32

I've been to places that are not and like people living in tents on it was.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:42

It was crazy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:44

It was crazy seeing that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:46

And I love seeing other places where I can get a perspective of how you can find joy.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:56

And.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:48:56

And I've also been to Bhutan where that is supposed to be happy nation.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:01

And, and what it is is that I think they have less demands, less desires and I don't know.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:11

And I think maybe they're more in the present moment.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:15

Like we started with the book the Power of Now that I'm reading.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:20

And I think that's the, that's what we're supposed to be doing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:24

I think that's what we're supposed to be doing kind of setting a plan to have a place where we can be present.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:31

So yes, we do need money in this lifetime.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:35

And by the way, love, money, love, love.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:38

And why do I love it?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:40

It's just because I know what it gets me.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:42

It gets me to have many adventures.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:44

It gets to have my designer bags that I love.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:48

It gets to have my beautiful apartment and decorating it the way that I want every single time.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:55

Travel with my kids, travel with my husband.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:49:58

And these are the things that I'm.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:00

I am wanting to get from.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:03

For money.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:04

And so as soon as you have.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:06

That's another thing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:07

As soon as you have kind of a goal of what is the money going to be for, then it should arrive.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:14

If you do everything that you need with the plan and where you want to go and what you want to do.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:21

And it gets really easy when you plan it out, or at least it did for me and every client that I work with.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:50:30

It just gets Easy.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:33

A matter of a roadmap.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:35

I love your perspectives, Merav.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:37

Talking about joy and being ballsy, which is necessary.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:42

You got to have that.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:44

What Testicular fortitude only come from a female perspective, which is more powerful.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:48

Powerful as far as I'm concerned and getting over the fear of taking the risk.

Shelly Johnson: 00:50:53

And when you talk about the muscle of self worth and succeeding without sacrifice and believing in resilience and adaptability, you have that on your website.

Shelly Johnson: 00:51:02

It's the keys to thriving in both personal and professional lives.

Shelly Johnson: 00:51:05

Your perspectives are amazing.

Shelly Johnson: 00:51:08

Just wondering, do you have a couple nuggets we could leave with our listeners for them to think about to set them on this course?

Shelly Johnson: 00:51:15

Because you're changing the world, Mehrav.

Shelly Johnson: 00:51:17

I love this.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:18

Thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:18

Thank you so much.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:19

I think we're all changing the world little by little.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:22

Hopefully, you know, we get to as many people as we can.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:27

I think the first things that I would want to leave you with is follow, follow, really follow people who you feel you want to see yourself becoming.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:44

What do I mean by that?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:46

I think that, like I said, we are programmed.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:48

And this isn't something that I am just talking about, it's something that I actually see happening.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:56

Right.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:57

We have been programmed to be in fear.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:51:59

Whether it's when living in a country with war, whether we're living in a country without women's rights, whether we're living in a country where we're less paid, it doesn't really matter.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:15

But we have a choice.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:16

We have a choice to follow different people.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:20

Whether it's on Instagram.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:22

If you have someone you look up to follow them.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:27

If you see someone who doesn't ignite love and happiness, unfollow.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:35

And if you can't unfollow, then mute.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:38

Right?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:38

This is, this is what we see.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:40

Probably, I don't know, mostly five to 10 hours a day, we scroll, we use digital marketing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:49

This is my job, so I know this very well.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:52:52

And what I'm saying is the people that you actually see and follow, those are the people who are creating your reality.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:00

So follow the right people.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:02

That would be the most important thing that I want to say.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:06

The second thing is as soon as you follow someone different, you'll see that they have a certain set of values.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:14

And that brings me to the choosing joy portion of it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:18

Hopefully you'll choose people to follow that are choosing joy and that want to help you be a better person, be a better self, love yourself more, have more self worth.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:32

So when you find that, just make sure that you listen to what they say and then choose Joy would be the first thing that I would want to say.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:43

Even if you don't believe it yet, choose it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:47

Choose it with all your heart.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:49

Just choose.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:53:51

You want joy in your life, you'll see more opportunities for that joy to come to life as soon as you choose it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:01

And then I'm not just saying choose it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:04

I'm saying, okay, now we're planning it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:09

What will make you happy?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:11

Try and think of all the things.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:13

It doesn't have to come to you immediately, but you have to make sure you think about it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:21

The other thing you asked me in the beginning of our conversation, how to say my name and what it meant.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:27

And like I, I, I told you, merav in Hebrew in the Bible means abundance.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:33

I didn't even know that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:34

I figured that along.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:36

It took me a long time.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:37

Although the name and what it means in Hebrew is a lot and that actually means abundance.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:44

And I guess I came to show people that abundant is in everything that you see.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:54:54

The first thing that I do every morning and that I, I, I have to say has changed my life is say thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:03

I do at least 20, 25 thank yous each morning.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:07

Sometimes when it's hot, I think the air conditioner, because a lot of people don't have that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:13

And sometimes I think coffee, obviously.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:16

I think my, my children being healthy and my, my beautiful, beautiful fiance.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:23

And I think the, the trivial things, I think flowers, I think the fact that I have a beautiful view and it's a sunny day and that the sun is out and that the weather is beautiful.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:35

And I think that I have an amazing brain and that I have amazing clients and I think everything humanly possible in that situation.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:46

I take the time in the morning with my great cup of coffee that I thank for and, and give thanks to everything, everything that I see.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:55:55

And I feel like if, if you start off with something, it could be like, my nails are amazing today.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:01

Really, it has, it could be the smallest, teeniest thing that you see and that you woke up in the morning healthy and that you're breathing and it could go up to obviously more, more deeper, amazing things and you'll see it getting bigger and bigger the more that you go.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:21

And so if you choose joy, if you do your thank yous in the morning and have a plan of what it is that, that you want to do and how you're going to get there and if you don't know how to do two of those things right, making a plan and how you want to get there, Then I always, always recommend getting a mentor.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:44

Someone who is where you want to get to.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:47

That's where you're going.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:49

Okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:49

And it could change every time you surpass what you got to.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:55

Okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:56:55

Sometimes the student surpasses the teacher, which is amazing.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:01

Okay.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:01

And I love seeing that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:03

I love seeing that.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:05

And so if you can find a mentor to help you set out a plan to get what you want, this is after choosing joy and being thankful for the things that you already have because you already have so much.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:18

I think those are, are the main ingredients to get a life of abundance, to be more ballsy, to have way higher self worth and ultimately love yourself so much that you're so full that you can share this love with other people.

Shelly Johnson: 00:57:39

Well said, Neyrov.

Shelly Johnson: 00:57:41

That's profound.

Shelly Johnson: 00:57:42

I love it.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:43

Thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:44

Thank you.

Shelly Johnson: 00:57:44

Merav.

Shelly Johnson: 00:57:45

Where do people reach out to you?

Merav Rosenberg: 00:57:47

So they can reach me through my website, obviously, which is either it's mehravrosenberg.com or they can go to Paz Agency, where that's obviously my digital marketing agency, where we do so many branding and web designs and help people showcase who they are online in the best way possible so that they can, you know, get their goals met as soon as they possibly can.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:18

So when they make that choice of joy, when they make that choice of making a plan, I am the one who is here to help them implement it.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:29

Excellent.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:30

And your first name is spelled M E I R A V.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:33

For those that are looking up your, your website, we'll have that in the show notes as well.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:38

Thank you so much.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:39

It really was such a pleasure speaking to both of you and thank you for having me on the show.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:47

Yes, thank you.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:49

We really appreciate it.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:50

Mehrav, it's been an honor.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:52

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:54

And hopefully we did some good.

Merav Rosenberg: 00:58:56

That's really what it's all about.

Shelly Johnson: 00:58:58

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