Healing Without Needles: The Benefits of Topical Stem Cell Therapy
Imagine healing after a sports injury just like you did when you were in your 20s. How about getting the benefits of expensive stem cell treatments without the injections and the huge expense? Topical stem cell therapy offers a non-invasive alternative to traditional stem cell treatments, minimizing risks associated with injections. Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer in regenerative medicine and promotes non-invasive stem cell therapy. He developed RheeGen, which is a safer stem cell alternative that doesn’t use live cells or invasive procedures. His expertise spans many years. He has treated pro athletes for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even the U.S. Navy. His latest book, The Future of Regenerative Medicine: Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy talks about how topical stem cell applications are reshaping healing and longevity. Dr. Rhee has been a practicing chiropractor since 2006 and served as the official team chiropractor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for three years. Dr. Rhee has pioneered and was the first Master Provider of ART or Active Release Techniques in 2008, the first to bring Exercise with Oxygen Therapy or EWOT in 2012, WholeBody Cryotherapy in 2015, PiezoWave, Shockwave therapy in 2016, and CryoFox in 2018. All of these regenerative techniques can benefit women as well as men. Dr. Rhee covers it all and describes how topical stem cell therapy works and why it is a great way to heal and regenerate on this episode of Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Tuccaro.
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Speaker B:Stem cell therapy is all the rage today, but there's still a great deal of confusion about it.
Speaker B:What many people may not know is to reap the benefits of this regenerative treatment, invasive injections are not necessary.
Speaker B:Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer in regenerative medicine and promotes non invasive stem cell therapy.
Speaker B:His expertise spans many years.
Speaker B:He's treated pro athletes like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even the U.S. navy.
Speaker B:His latest book, the Future of Regenerative Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy, talks about how topical stem cell applications are reshaping healing and longevity.
Speaker B: practicing chiropractor since: Speaker B:He developed Regen, which is a safer stem cell alternative that doesn't use live cells or invasive procedures.
Speaker B: active release techniques in: Speaker B:All of these regenerative techniques can benefit women as well as men.
Speaker B:And Kathy and I were extremely interested, so we invited Dr. Rhee on the show.
Speaker B:We definitely want to know what all of this is.
Speaker B:Welcome, Dr. Ry.
Speaker B:Thank you for being with us.
Speaker C:Thank you very much.
Speaker C:I really appreciate this opportunity to talk to you and your audience.
Speaker D:Yeah, this is great.
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:Dr. Rhee, you are an extraordinaire in the field of regenerative medicine and you cover a lot of areas.
Speaker B:If you could maybe give us a brief background about yourself and what drew you to these therapies that I personally have never heard of?
Speaker C:Yeah, so I started off, you know, I'm a sports chiropractor, so I started at the UCLA and working with those top elite collegiate athletes.
Speaker C:And as they evolve into professional type of athletes, you see their off season training and on season training and you see how they Recuperate or how they protect, protect themselves for like prehab stuff.
Speaker C:So as you see these athletes go into that world of preventative and just really how to really take care of themselves, you get introduced into this regenerative world.
Speaker C: is regenerative world back in: Speaker C:And proto therapy was the current stuff that was out there, which is basically they inject like if you had like a injury in your elbow, they'll inject this, is this saline slash sugar water into your body, into that damaged area, and your body will act as if that's like an antigen.
Speaker C:It'll create like an antibody and creates like scar tissue or rebuilding material.
Speaker C:So that's a prolotherapy world.
Speaker C:Then evolved to what they call the prp.
Speaker C:We heard of that.
Speaker C:And then now it goes into the world stem cell, where they take it from your own body and they, they take out the thing called the mesocoma stem cells, and then they inject that damaged tissue.
Speaker C:And then now you get the tissue from a donor site from the umbilical core called Wharton's Jelly, and you take out the mesocoma stem cells and then you inject the damaged tissue again.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And now it's into the world of topical application with the same donor site from the umbilical cord or Worden's Jelly.
Speaker C:And it's a topical application that has a transdermal agent, pulls it through the three layers of skin into the damaged tissue.
Speaker C:So now you'll have that kind of like, that risk factor of like injections.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:For infection, downtime, a compromised tissue you may damage and more importantly, the cost.
Speaker C:So that's, that's the, that's the world that I, I got into here.
Speaker B:Pretty amazing stuff.
Speaker B:And yeah, anytime you have injections and so forth.
Speaker B:Well, I would imagine with stem cell injections, it.
Speaker B:Does it really stay at the injection site or does it affect the entire body?
Speaker C:Yeah, so there's, there's, there's a primary and a secondary.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So you, you, when you inject or when you apply any type of regenerative properties in the area, there are vessels there that it will actually get into the vessels of venous or the arterial fl systemically go through the body in addition to target the existing tissue that you're trying to heal.
Speaker C:So yeah, it does kind of both.
Speaker B:And stem cell injections, gosh, they're pretty expensive.
Speaker B:I mean, you can spend thousands and thousands of dollars, right?
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I think the going rate now is between 4,500 to $15,000 per injection site.
Speaker B:Oh my goodness.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's very expensive because I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, you think about the, the expenses of the actual, I mean the material itself, you know, is costly.
Speaker C:Then you talk about the actual provider and then you have to safe room and you have to do a lot of prep and then it's just, you know, one after the other, like expenses.
Speaker C:You have to have to apply onto that expense.
Speaker C:Whereas if you do regen, it's just a topical application that you can apply at home.
Speaker B:And what is the typical expense associated with the topical therapy?
Speaker C:Yeah, so typical retail price of regen is approximately $1,000, so.
Speaker C:Oh, that's a big difference.
Speaker C:Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Now if somebody wanted to have whole body benefits, would they have to apply that everywhere or how would that work with a topical stem cell?
Speaker C:Yeah, so I'm a sports med guy, so I stay specifically to an injured site.
Speaker C:But now they're.
Speaker C:So the current procedure for a systemic protocol for, let's say you're dealing with, maybe they want to, they want to try to treat like a systemic issue.
Speaker C:You may have like, like maybe an autoimmune issue or some type of like, you know, maybe an anti aging protocol.
Speaker C:They'll do like an IV injection diluted with saline and then it will get injected to your venous system.
Speaker C:And then the neat thing about this is that there's different kind of vehicles for the systemic world.
Speaker C:So the mine is just localized with some like, maybe like some secondary.
Speaker C:They'll go to the systemic system.
Speaker C:But where you see like the whole body kind of application, you'll do the IBM.
Speaker C:So there's another process out there that, that's coming up right now.
Speaker C:It's called a nasal spray.
Speaker C:You can, you know, you know, basically insert the applicator through your nose and inhale it.
Speaker C:So the reason why they do that is because no matter if you're taking either the nasal or the ib, when it goes to your system, it collects in your lungs for 24 to 48 hours.
Speaker C:So it sits there.
Speaker C:Then after that it starts actually like going back into the system and you know, taking care of all the cells.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker B:Okay, well, I know that they've done what vaccines.
Speaker B:They've looked at the nasal application for those, right?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Remember, so the top thing, when you do a nasal spray, if you have asthma, you know, those, those are the things you have to be concerned about if you do a nasal spray because they may irritate capillaries in your lungs.
Speaker C:So do you want to take the other option, which is the IV Again, you know, talk to your provider and then find out the best pathway for that systemic treatment protocol.
Speaker B:For those who may not be familiar, what do stem cells do for us?
Speaker C:Okay, so stem cell is kind of unique in its definition.
Speaker C:Like, stem cell is.
Speaker C:What it does is it's like the root.
Speaker C:It's like the.
Speaker C:The starter of all your cells.
Speaker C:It helps you make other cells, and it's like, it.
Speaker C:It kind of creates like, a template or a beginning site to start up and work.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So we have, like, all types of stem cells, from embryonic stem cells to adult stem cells to mesocoma stem cells.
Speaker C:There's all kinds of stem cells out there, and some of these are defined by its use, right?
Speaker C:So you look at, like, they call a totipotent stem cell, where it can make.
Speaker C:It can make a lot of other stem cells.
Speaker C:Then we look at the things called a potent pluripotent stem cell, where you have a limited amount of, like, cells they can go.
Speaker C:Go into.
Speaker C:And then you got a uni stem cell when it turns into one cell only.
Speaker C:So it varies, but basically, it's like the.
Speaker C:It's like a Kickstarter or the starting template for your body to reproduce or regenerate.
Speaker D:You know, it never ceases to amaze me how the miracle of the human body, it is like, it's just unbelievable how the depth of, you know, of how we function, and we don't.
Speaker D:We take it for granted.
Speaker B:We don't even realize.
Speaker B:We don't most.
Speaker C:You know, you don't.
Speaker D:You don't care.
Speaker D:But when you start listening to someone like yourself, it's like, wow.
Speaker D:Like, holy, man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:And, yeah.
Speaker D:What you're doing is absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker D:And I have one question, going back to your topical cream, would that help?
Speaker D:Like, my daughter has really bad plantar fasciitis.
Speaker D:Would that help with that topical cream?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Perfect.
Speaker C:Perfect example.
Speaker C:So plantar fasciitis is that fascia on the bottom part of your foot.
Speaker C:So when you have, like, these little muscles in the bottom of these intrinsic muscles that help your foot kind of like, you know, move, and they call like, a.
Speaker C:Like a plantar flexion kind of kind of motion, you start, like, how would you say, like, stop using the muscle.
Speaker C:And depending on other structures, like the fascia, and when you don't have strong muscles, it depends on keeping your foot or your arch, you know, up.
Speaker C:It compromises the fascia.
Speaker C:So when you start compromising the fascia, you get these micro traumas when you get these micro trauma in your fascia.
Speaker C:Well, the first thing when you see your trauma is inflammatory world.
Speaker C:That's why you hear the word itis, Right.
Speaker C:So then once you start getting the inflamma, you know, inflammation in the area, now you're having the cascade of more occupying, like fluid inflammation in addition to micro trauma.
Speaker C:And that's why you have that, that pain sensitive part of the foot right at the arch and close to the forefoot.
Speaker C:So regen will help quickly generate.
Speaker C:So the thing with regen and, and then regenerative medicine, the most important thing is that you're trying to see how you can be young again.
Speaker C:And that tissue damage when you're younger heals faster.
Speaker C:But when you get older, we can't heal faster as we, as if we were like in our 20s or teens.
Speaker C:So we're looking for a faster pattern of healing.
Speaker C:Because when you look at the fascia of the foot, you're constantly walking, you're constantly using it.
Speaker C:So if I heal faster, then I can get to walk up the next day and be able to walk.
Speaker C:But because we're aged, we're have, we're having to like, have more time to recover, like two or three days.
Speaker C:And then if you keep on doing more trauma over and over walking, well, you beat up that area and you're making it that little micro trauma into almost a macro trauma where you're, you're getting more of the fascia involved with it.
Speaker C:So that's what regenerative medicine is.
Speaker C:And when you look at someone like the 40 plus, you just want to quickly regenerate ourselves back to normal because it's all about, you know, when you work out, when you do any type of movement, you do like a little micro trauma and you give yourself some time to rest and it regenerates and then you're back to square one again.
Speaker C:When you have a constant like abuse, like walking or something like that, well, it's hard to re, you know, rest it when you're actually like using it.
Speaker C:So we need a faster recovery and that is used by this stem cell regenerative medicine.
Speaker B:Oh, so the stem cell therapy, does it return the area that it's treating to a much younger state?
Speaker C:Pretty much, not so much a younger state.
Speaker C:It just helps, helps you recover faster.
Speaker C:For instance, you know, if you have like a cut on your skin, you know, like a distal area like down on the shins.
Speaker C:Well, when you were younger, that thing would heal within like a week or two.
Speaker C:As we get older, it takes weeks and weeks you know, poor circulation.
Speaker C:We don't have those growth factors.
Speaker C:We just have a lot of, like, our cells that we're able to, like, heal faster.
Speaker C:Well, we're starting to limit our cells to recover or regenerate.
Speaker C:So that's why you need something that has the ability to take that tissue that's probably, like, dormant, wake it up, and then regenerate faster.
Speaker B:That would be a gutsend for so many people, because chronic pain seems to be a pandemic today.
Speaker B:I mean, everybody seems to have issues with all of that.
Speaker B:Just watch any of the commercials out there.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:I feel that the rise of, like, that chronic pain, because everybody knows how important activity and exercise is after 40 years old.
Speaker C:So exercise is a huge, like.
Speaker C:Like a.
Speaker C:How would you say, like a preventative type of medicine or movement to avoid, like, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes.
Speaker C:The problem is, again, is that when you start doing, like, an exercise, let's say you're doing a walk, like an hour walk.
Speaker C:Well, because of the repetitive movement, you'll start getting those injuries now.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You will break down tissues of muscle and tendon, and our own body recycles and rebuilds.
Speaker C:Well, as we age, we don't have those little adult stem cells or those little cells that can regenerate our damaged tissue to grow big, bigger, better, and stronger.
Speaker C:So now we're in that.
Speaker C:The repetitive movement of injury, injury, injury, micro trauma, where it becomes now a chronic situation.
Speaker C:So either you rest for a long period of time to recover, or you speed up the healing process, and again, you go back into regenerative medicine.
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Speaker B:You've probably heard all the buzz about stem cell therapy, but here's the don't need invasive injections to get the benefits.
Speaker B:Dr. Tommy Rhee, a pioneer in regenerative medicine, has treated everyone from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the UCLA women's soccer team to the U.S. navy.
Speaker B:And he's showing us how non invasive topical stem cell therapy is reshaping healing and longevity.
Speaker B:His new book, the Future of Regenerative Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy, explains why this breakthrough could change the way we recover and stay strong.
Speaker B:Dr. Ry created regen, a topical stem cell therapy.
Speaker B:Stick around.
Speaker B:Dr. Ry is here to tell us more about how everything works.
Speaker B:Dr. Ry stem cell therapy makes a lot of sense in terms of injury and repetitive motion and things that people do every day.
Speaker B:It's a, and maintain mobility and to stay young.
Speaker B:Actually, I can't help but wonder with all the technology that we have if people aren't going to be dealing with more of these needs earlier.
Speaker B:Because you've got incidents of what they call tech neck with teenagers.
Speaker C:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:They're leaning forward, they're looking down all the time, they're texting, they're looking at their device.
Speaker B:And that's not where we're supposed to have our necks.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Everything that comes to biomechanics, when you change your biomechanics because of, you know, posture or that mechanical change in the chronic, you're going to stress out some ligaments and then, you know, the worst case scenario is when you actually get that formation of that, like that, that, that forward head movement.
Speaker C:And then the worst scenario is that when you're stuck in that position.
Speaker C:So absolutely you need to correct that movement as much as possible.
Speaker C:And when you get to that damaged component of those ligaments, well, you have to figure out how to heal that.
Speaker C:So you want to just get either more rest to recover from that injury or speed up the healing process.
Speaker D:What about like I have a lot as a heavy equipment operator, we have a lot of shoulder injuries and wood and the healing.
Speaker D:A lot of us are over, you know, 50 and I get my, my one co worker had a shoulder replacement on both shoulders and she was off for almost three years.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Now to this day she, she's limited in what she can do.
Speaker D:Would, what would regen, Would, would that.
Speaker B:Be assist her at all?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So this was, this was the wonderful thing about a topical regenerative medicine cream, Regen.
Speaker C:This is what's great about it.
Speaker C:There's no downtime.
Speaker C:You can continue your activity while applying Regen.
Speaker C:So Regen is a 30 day application.
Speaker C:And then we recommend, you know, you can still do your activity because it was really meant for like professional athletes during the season.
Speaker C:So when you think about like, you know, an injection, let's say you do stem cell therapy prior to, you know, you're doing surgery, right.
Speaker C:So you want to do the most conservative approach.
Speaker C:So back then it was injectables of the stem cell.
Speaker C:So the reason, the reason why you have downtime, because you have a primary injury site, let's say it's like one of your rotator cuff muscles in your shoulder.
Speaker C:Well, when, if you hit, in a, if you hit the area with a needle and you're going through tissue, well, you're compromising another spot.
Speaker C:So now you have a primary and secondary injury spot.
Speaker C:Now you're recovering from two sites and that's why you need downtime for the secondary injecting sites.
Speaker C:So now because of lack of movement, you might, you know, start getting into a little bit a more adhesion buildup and then it kind of puts in a cascade.
Speaker C:Like, you know, it's just not faring that well because you're immobilizing that joint because you have to recover from the injury site of the needle.
Speaker C:So but with a topical, you want to continue on moving, you want to continue on doing your same activity.
Speaker C:And that will penetrate through the skin to the damaged tissue over the 30 day period and it yields as much as the injectables.
Speaker C:Now let me, let me tell you why I did, why I moved into the topical world.
Speaker C:So as my athletes are typically going through their season, one of the complaints they had, they couldn't do these stem cell therapy injections during the season because of the downtime.
Speaker C:So when you have downtime with pro athletes, like missing weeks, well, it, you're playing with their money, right?
Speaker C:So it's basically you miss a couple games, it's in their contract, you get paid per game or something.
Speaker C:They don't want that in addition to some other factors like contracts or they don't want to report injuries.
Speaker C:So what these guys would do, you know, to avoid that kind of like that pain, they would do that pain med stuff.
Speaker C:You know, you heard about the injections and all that other Things that prevent them to feel what's going on down there in their ankle, whatever problem they have.
Speaker C:So with the topical application I started thinking that's non invasive.
Speaker C:It can deliver the same pain information, the stem cells down into the tissue and then continue play.
Speaker C:So I had a quarterback that was going through a bad Achilles tendon and he kept on, you know, doing the off season protocol.
Speaker C:Like with all athletes, they go through a stem cell injection protocol off season because they don't have to work out or do anything.
Speaker C:So they have the ability to do some rest time during that period.
Speaker C:But during the season, this quarterback, his Achilles tendon wasn't healing correctly.
Speaker C:So he came up to me, we talked about it and we started doing regen with him, that topical application.
Speaker C:So he was the one that helped me tune up, formulated change, the kind of, the overall feeling of it.
Speaker C:And because of him and him using regen during the season, he was able to play the whole season injury free.
Speaker C:It healed and more importantly, since he was at the last year contract, it was not like a negotiating tool, like, hey, you know, I can't give you that much money because of, you know, your injury here.
Speaker C:So that helps me out in that world.
Speaker C:So that's how it was first developed.
Speaker C:And I started thinking, well, if it works for that top athlete doing a high velocity trauma, well definitely going to help out civilians.
Speaker C:So that's why it went into this world.
Speaker C:Then it went into things of like, you know, the 40 plus that we have, we still want to be active, we still want to play pickleball activity at the later age, but we just need something to speed our healing process.
Speaker C:So that's how it transitioned to that.
Speaker C:So that's why I'm excited about regen for the topical aspect is that now you can have anybody use it without that invasive world and no downtime.
Speaker B:So it eliminates pain and increases mobility.
Speaker B:That would be just a life changer for people.
Speaker D:Imagine that that football player, if you didn't have that, the future would have not turned out the way it did, right?
Speaker C:No, especially, I mean we still talk about it.
Speaker C:He's still, he's still a die hard person.
Speaker C:I mean, you know, football players will always be, they always go through injuries.
Speaker C:So he goes, oh, I got this, I got that.
Speaker C:He goes, okay.
Speaker C:So yeah, absolutely.
Speaker C:But what I love about region is that now because, you know, it's like, you know, like sometimes when you think about medicine and where it, you see where it's going down and then I, I wouldn't say the trust value but you always have to question.
Speaker C:You want a second third opinion.
Speaker C:Well, the great thing about our technology, you know, like we talked about, is that there's so much information out there.
Speaker C:So much, you know, places where you get like good data points and then figure out what protocol, maybe it fits for you and maybe it doesn't.
Speaker C:Or maybe there's something unique out there.
Speaker C:Well, it gives the patient ability to start like, you know, like really commanding of what you know is maybe a possibility that it's out of the doctor's hands.
Speaker C:So that's what's fun about this, is that, you know, regen or stem cell therapy is so deep but so proven out there that it's unique in its own world of like, where to go with this and where's the future See in this.
Speaker C:And then if you can actually have it in the patient's hand and then have an idea where this can be applied, well, that's where the topical world gets involved.
Speaker C:Now it's in the patient's hand.
Speaker C:Hey, I've got this elbow pain.
Speaker C:It's tennis elbow.
Speaker C:I've been diagnosed.
Speaker C:Let me apply it on here.
Speaker C:And then, you know, they have more of a control of the protocol and the treatment.
Speaker B:So the way this is designed, the molecules are small enough to penetrate all of the layers.
Speaker B:Because I know that that's been a challenge.
Speaker B:The molecules have to be small enough.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So there is an agent in the regen formula that helps penetrate or, you know, permeate through the three layer skin.
Speaker C:And that is called dmso.
Speaker C:And we've all known about DMSO in the past.
Speaker C:So that's the vehicle that we use to get those small molecules through the three layers of skin.
Speaker B:For those who aren't familiar with dmso, what is that?
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:They call it dimethyl sulfoxide.
Speaker C:It's a, it's a solvent.
Speaker C:It's a natural solvent, comes from tree bark.
Speaker C: ed probably back in the early: Speaker C: , when I was younger, back in: Speaker C:And it was the one of the sulfur components of the MSO that people with arthritis would rub on their knees or their elbows, and it would be fantastic for arthritis.
Speaker C:But the interesting thing is it's such a good transdermal application that when you apply it on your skin, right away you taste the sulfur and you smell it very fast through your body, so it penetrates Very fast through your skin.
Speaker B:It's a lubricant.
Speaker B:I have neck issues and I actually have used DMSL in the past so I'm familiar with it.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker B:Uh huh.
Speaker C:Did it work?
Speaker B:It did.
Speaker B:I don't know why I quit using it, but I think I've tried a lot of different things because certainly working at a computer all the time doesn't help the situation with my neck.
Speaker B:I would imagine that regen would really maybe alleviate some of the pain.
Speaker B:Now can it actually rejuvenate say discs that have big degenerated in your skeletal structure or.
Speaker C:Okay, so here's the thing with when it comes to like disc issue, you know, it's deep in the actual like the low back or your neck area.
Speaker C:And you know you have to penetrate through a lot of like tissue like your muscle and fascia and stuff like that.
Speaker C:So depending on the severity of your disc issue, if you have a like there's like certain grades of how bad things are.
Speaker C:So you know, grade one is not as severe as grade three.
Speaker C:So when you look at something that not that severe, you know, let's say you have a little bit of joint space loss because the disc has gone a little bit, you know, in its, in its age process.
Speaker C:Now regen will help but the thing is that just like if you were in an injectable role for stem cell, it may be one of those things that it's not going to be a one injection.
Speaker C:It may be a whole year of like every three month injection.
Speaker C:So it all depends on the severity of that gen disc.
Speaker C:So just like you know they do injection, we kind of compare that with regen.
Speaker C:So if you have a severe like a grade three disc, what they call ddd, like disc degenerative disease, then we would say if like you need like at least three protocol or three treatment or three kits of regen throughout that year period to help that tissue generate.
Speaker B:Okay, so there is hope for people with degenerative disc disease because that can come on at a very young age too.
Speaker C:Oh, now going back to that techno neck.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Our neck, low back, middle back, we have this a curve, a natural curve and they call it like either like a thordotic or a cave body.
Speaker C:It's like if you look at yourself in sideways position, it looks like an S. Right now we always think that the disc are shock absorbers, but naturally it's for mobility, we want motion.
Speaker C:So like our cervical have these seven segments of the spine and then lumbar has five and the middle of our back called thoracic, have 12.
Speaker C:Well, the disc in between, like all these vertebrae, bones.
Speaker C:Well, the disc.
Speaker C:We look at that in our world as mobility.
Speaker C:You want to keep the curve.
Speaker C:So it acts as one big spring, just like a slinky, right?
Speaker C:So when you think about walking, if you have a curve from your cervical, your neck, thoracic, your mid back and your lumbar, low back, and you're doing any kind of compression in your body by walking, it springs back and forth, you know, not disc by disc, but the mobility of all the segments act as one spring.
Speaker C:But when you have like a straight neck or a straight lumbar and you lose the curve, well, now you're playing havoc on the disc, where the disc starts bulging out, herniating out.
Speaker C:And you don't want that.
Speaker C:You want to keep that natural curve.
Speaker C:So posture, very important.
Speaker C:That techno neck, you said that's not good because then you have a straight neck and then, then all of a sudden the disc starts invasively going outwards, you know, bulging and herniate now.
Speaker C:And then, now you're going on that cascade of like bulging herniation and go to neuropathy.
Speaker C:Then, you know, all the orthos in that world say, all right, you need a dissected melaniectomy to alleviate the nerve pain.
Speaker C:Then you go down the cascade of all, and now you're going down the rehab world.
Speaker C:So, yeah, you see how everything starts with, number one, poor posture, and then number two, you know your biomechanics and you know how to correct and get somebody to identify that.
Speaker C:So regen has the ability to regenerate, but when it comes to posture, that's a whole mechanism of self discipline there.
Speaker C:So be all, but you understand that part.
Speaker B:So my mother was correct when she said, sit up straight.
Speaker C:Oh, 100%.
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Speaker B:Let's talk about one of the hottest topics in health today, stem cell therapy.
Speaker B:Most people think it means needles and expensive invasive procedures, but Dr. Tommy Rhee is changing all of that.
Speaker B:He's a pioneer in regenerative medicine who's worked with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even the U.S. navy.
Speaker B:His new book, the Future of Regenerative Medicine Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy reveals how non invasive topical applications like his own creation, Regen are helping athletes and everyday people heal faster, stay mobile longer and boost their quality of life with no downtime.
Speaker B:Stay tuned.
Speaker B:Dr. Ry is explaining how all of this works.
Speaker B:It's really fascinating.
Speaker B:Dr. Ry.
Speaker B:In our last segment, we mentioned posture as being super important.
Speaker B:So self discipline's part of keeping our mobility.
Speaker B:Along with the advantages of stem cell therapy like you have.
Speaker C:Here's something funny about, you know, you always hear like, you know, females are more prone to like neck herniations than males.
Speaker C:You know, I think the one of the common threads that, that, that's really like pronounced is hair, because majority of females have longer hair than males.
Speaker C:So when you think about hair, you think about, you know, the weight of the hair.
Speaker C:And then you apply water to that hair.
Speaker C:You're tech, maybe like almost a half a pound to a pound of extra weight.
Speaker C:You're playing, you're applying on that neck area with the hair.
Speaker C:So that's another thing that you have to be cognizant of, like how to keep that posture because if you have the good posture, you can handle that weight, extra weight of that hair and being wet.
Speaker C:But if you're out of position, that extra pressure, well, it's applied to your discs now, so that's why it'll go down that pathway.
Speaker B:Makes sense.
Speaker B:You don't think about how heavy hair is, especially when you.
Speaker C:Heavy.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:People, my cousin, oh my God, she, her, she had hair down to her bottom and it was so thick and heavy and it was just, it gave her a headache.
Speaker C:She ended up having to cut it.
Speaker D:Because it was just too much.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's nice when you're younger, you know, but when you get older, you know how that goes.
Speaker C:Especially when the hair gets wet, then you're looking at, whoa, that's a lot of weight.
Speaker B:It's a lot of work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think as women and get busier in their adult lives, they're like, I don't want to deal with this all the time.
Speaker B:Unless you have a hairdresser that you can take with you.
Speaker B:And most people don't.
Speaker B:Dr. Rhee, you also have been involved with oxygen therapy, whole body cryotherapy, PISA wave shockwave therapy.
Speaker B:What are all those things?
Speaker C:So because of injured athletes, you want to speed up the healing process and that, you know, besides, you know, regenerative medicine that's includes oxygen.
Speaker C:So when you look at oxygen in its, in its form, you want to include it into like the healing process, right?
Speaker C:So just like if you have like a cut, you know how you have a cut in your hand, you, you know the old let the air out, it heal faster.
Speaker C:Well, it's the same principle.
Speaker C:You want more oxygen, you want more the healing properties to the damaged tissue.
Speaker C:So we have things like, you know, a hyperbaric chamber.
Speaker C:It has higher pressure so it can diffuse to the cell membrane to get to that cell to heal faster.
Speaker C:And then there's another thing called the ewot, which is like exercise with oxygen therapy.
Speaker C:So the hyperbaric chamber does more of a, like a passive from the, the gradient being stronger outside than inside the cell membrane.
Speaker C:So the oxygen molecule gets pushed through the membrane going to the cell.
Speaker C:With ewt, it's almost the opposite, draws it in because you're basically doing a high intense exercise for about eight to 10 minutes and you're breathing like 60 pounds of, of oxygen and it's forced into your body.
Speaker C:So you're pulling it in because you're at extreme exercise that you're, you're pushing your lack threshold higher.
Speaker C:So it gives you the ability to go harder, Stronger because the O2 is consumed at a faster rate.
Speaker C:So again, that's another way of pulling oxygen through your body.
Speaker C:Instead of being forced into it, it's getting drawn into it.
Speaker C:Then I have another device that's called a PISA wave.
Speaker C:And then, you know, they call it the old, AKA the shock wave or something like that.
Speaker C:So it's just basically there's fluid that gets caught in between joint space.
Speaker C:So I can't manually get between like, let's say the top part of your ankle.
Speaker C:They call it a telodome.
Speaker C:You can't get in there to flush out that fluid, so you need something forcefully get out there.
Speaker C:So we use this high velocity sound wave and the PISA wave to get in there and push that fluid.
Speaker C:And it's just, it's a focalized right into that joint space and it pushes that fluid out.
Speaker C:So it gives you like more of a, more of a fluidity in that joint so that it won't have that compression of the excess fluid inflammation.
Speaker C:So, you know, when you're in the sports world, you want the latest and highest technology you can find out there to help these athletes or civilians or anybody that have to do with like, you know, movement.
Speaker C:You know, our mission statement here is we treat everybody like a pro athlete.
Speaker C:So that includes, you know, Weekend warriors, the people that sit in the office, we treat them all like an athlete.
Speaker C:You're gonna.
Speaker C:We always look at you as a moving object.
Speaker C:If it's high performance or low performance, you're still moving.
Speaker C:So when we look at that, then we say, all right, what's the best equipment for those pro athletes or people behind the desk?
Speaker C:That's the equipment.
Speaker C:So we look for those type of equipments to help you heal faster and really, like, just get you back to play or, you know, whatever you're thinking about doing makes sense.
Speaker B:Well, I imagine people, when they're weekend warriors, do some serious damage if they've been sitting all week and then they decide to really break it loose.
Speaker B:They come back hobbling and hunched over on Monday.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hey, you know that.
Speaker C:You know how the old.
Speaker C:What's the old analogy?
Speaker C:Like, I'm young in mind, not in the body.
Speaker C:That's the problem with all of us.
Speaker C:We all think we can still do things like we're 20 years old.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:But, you know, mindset really is a positive thing.
Speaker C:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker C:That absolutely is a very positive thing.
Speaker C:It's just that you just need a body to catch up to the mind, show some activity.
Speaker B:But, you know, I. I've known people in their 20s who think old, and it's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they're setting themselves up.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, I always see that the biggest component of majority of these.
Speaker C:Like these.
Speaker C:You hear the classic disorders or diseases that are coming up more often, like diabetes and cardiac disease.
Speaker C:One of the components that are missing is just the simple movement, exercise.
Speaker C:You got to keep moving.
Speaker C:Your body loves that stress.
Speaker C:And then you just kind of like, you know, just put yourself in a little bit of stressful situation so you can handle it as you go further in life.
Speaker B:We are more sedentary as a society than we were 50 years ago.
Speaker B:When you think about it, it's good to see children when they're running around outside, when the parents say, get out there, because most of them are in front of their video games or their smartphones, they're sitting.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's incredible what's going on out there.
Speaker C:You hear about the.
Speaker C:Even the curriculum.
Speaker C:The school, like, restricting PE classes and.
Speaker C:And they're shortening a lot of these activities to be physical in class.
Speaker C:So, yeah, it's interesting where it's evolving.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:It's not evolving correctly.
Speaker B:I mean, we're not designed to sit.
Speaker B:And I know as a kid, I could not sit.
Speaker B:It's like, I'm done with my work.
Speaker B:I'm going to run around the room.
Speaker B:It's like, Shelly, sit down, you know.
Speaker B:Now, whole body cryotherapy, is that the same thing, like the cryogenics?
Speaker B:I mean, what is that?
Speaker C:So, so whole body cryotherapy, so you're.
Speaker C:You're basically in this chamber for about two and a half minutes at below 166 degrees.
Speaker C:And the object is that.
Speaker C:Yeah, so the object is that you want to do what they call a sympathetic reaction, where you shunt all the blood from your extremities to your core and you basically constrict.
Speaker C:So the therapy itself is not during the actual cryo aspect of it.
Speaker C:You heard like, like the cold plunge and all that.
Speaker C:And it's the same theory, but in this case it's a lot faster.
Speaker C:Because the first thing your body does in the physiology world, it's when it feels cold, it wants to warm the area up.
Speaker C:So it does what they call basal dilation.
Speaker C:So it brings more blood flow to the area.
Speaker C:So your capillaries open up and it allows more of the oxygenated blood at that, that core temperature to get to the extremity, the arm or leg, and then it tries to warm it up.
Speaker C:When it identifies that it can't warm up, then it does the opposite, which is basically close the vessels down, protect the core of the heart and, you know, organs and shunt all the blood from the arms and legs to the actual core of the body.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So with cryo, whole body cryotherapy, it's so coded.
Speaker C:It bypasses the first component of it, and it goes right into vasoconstriction.
Speaker C:It goes right into the sympathetic reaction.
Speaker C:So what the idea is that it's not so much that you don't want the cryo component of it.
Speaker C:You want the secondary.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The result of the sympathetic is the parasympathetic.
Speaker C:When you come out now, you have to.
Speaker C:The body recognizes we're back to a room temperature.
Speaker C:So it goes back to the parasympathetic, and they so dilates large vessels on all the vessels, and it opens things up so then you can quickly flush out.
Speaker C:So now you have oxygenated blood going down in this large diameter of the.
Speaker C:Of the dilation, but also the venous and arterial flow are opened up.
Speaker C:So now you're flushing out all that extra stuff, including metabolic waste.
Speaker C:So when you have that kind of inflammatory world, you know, you're stuck with like a long period.
Speaker C:Like, you know, you always feel like a little swollen or some type of inflammation or something.
Speaker C:Well, that's what the idea is that you want to flush it out fast.
Speaker C:So that's why you go into the cryo.
Speaker C:And then when you come out of it five, 10 minutes later, you feel that flushing feeling of that warmth through your whole body.
Speaker C:Well, that's the body returning it to its norm function.
Speaker C:So cold body cryotherapy was first developed by a Japanese rheumatologist as that was working with rheumatoid arthritis.
Speaker C:So that was one of his protocol because, you know, rheumatoid arthritis is basically your body autoimmune.
Speaker C:It's, it's trying to, you know, fight itself or attack itself.
Speaker C:So when it comes to ra rheumatoid arthritis, some of the things that you want to get out is that metabolic waste.
Speaker C:So this Japanese doctor went into this world of cryotherapy and he saw great results about pain and getting back to like, you know, normal function.
Speaker C:So that's how it was first started.
Speaker C:And then athletes took upon to recover faster.
Speaker C:You want to get that metabolic waste, all that, like that, that excess bad tissue, you want to get it out that all the free radicals, you want to get it out.
Speaker C:And then it moved into the world of just wellness.
Speaker C:So cryo.
Speaker C:So when you hear about when people and they do like cold plunge.
Speaker C:Cold plunge, that's why they want you to stay in there a little longer because your first couple minutes is a warming sensation and then secondary is the constricting component of it.
Speaker C:So that's the whole body cryotherapy.
Speaker B:So you're flushing the body of toxins.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Afterwards, not during the time afterwards.
Speaker C:So you want the aftermath of that cryotherapy.
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Speaker B:Stem cell therapy is everywhere in the headlines.
Speaker B:But what if you could get the benefits without the needles?
Speaker B:Dr. Tommy Rhee has been leading the charge in regenerative medicine.
Speaker B:He's worked with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even the US Navy.
Speaker B:His therapies are unique.
Speaker B:In his new book, the Future of Regenerative Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy, he reveals how his innovation Regen is making healing faster, mobility lasting longer and life better, all without invasive procedures.
Speaker B:He's changing the face of what getting older means.
Speaker B:Dr. Ree's been sharing his great insight with Kathy and me.
Speaker B:Dr. Ree, I would imagine with all of the different chemicals in our world today, there's a lot more toxicity that maybe people 60, 70 years ago didn't deal with.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:You know, I think the prime example I still like, use, remember, like, I remember like back in the 70s, a loaf of bread couldn't stay longer than a week.
Speaker C:And now you can keep a loaf of bread for like three weeks on a shelf.
Speaker B:It's kind of scary.
Speaker B:It's like very scary.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What's next?
Speaker C:I mean, there are things out there that we don't even know we see.
Speaker C:Look at the ingredients.
Speaker C:Like, look at that go.
Speaker C:What is all this stuff here?
Speaker C:I think the best.
Speaker C:Like, like, you know, if you really want to know what goes on as far as, like, is it, is it safe for you?
Speaker C:Just put a, put a food down on the ground and see what like insect or ants or something will eat it.
Speaker C:Do you see it still there?
Speaker C:Nobody's touched it.
Speaker C:Tells you exactly what that's about.
Speaker D:It's kind of funny because I have a severe gluten allergy and at work I'll toss out the, the gluten free bread.
Speaker D:Even the ravens won't touch it.
Speaker D:Even like the gluten free crackers, they won't touch it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's kind of funny.
Speaker D:Anything but the gluten free.
Speaker B:If insects aren't going to eat some of that stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why would I?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because they're nature's cleanup crew.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:When you think about it, you never remember.
Speaker C:Remember when Margin was around, Margaret?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Do you remember, like, remember it would never melt.
Speaker C:Just never melt.
Speaker C:You stick it out in room temperature and never melt.
Speaker C:Whereas butter, we had butter.
Speaker C:I mean basically almost like back to liquid.
Speaker C:And I remember like ants and roaches around my house.
Speaker C:You know, I used to live in a bad part of town, but they would never touch that stuff.
Speaker C:They would just, you can see them attack everything else, like butter and stuff.
Speaker C:But not, not that.
Speaker B:Yeah, we need to do some thinking and do some observing what mother nature is consuming.
Speaker B:And if they won't touch what we're eating, maybe we shouldn't too.
Speaker B:Yeah, Good point.
Speaker B:So, Dr. Ry, where do people find your product?
Speaker B:Where do they find your book?
Speaker B:Your book really is a great tutorial for people.
Speaker B:I think that there are a lot of different things that you cover the types of stem cells, cell damage and aging.
Speaker B:Who's a candidate for stem cell therapy?
Speaker B:You explain chromosomes and telomeres and telomerase and all of that stuff.
Speaker B:Those are kind of the building blocks, aren't they, with our bodies?
Speaker B:Where do people get educated with the future of regenerative medicine Unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy?
Speaker B:And where do they reach out to you?
Speaker C:Okay, well, as far as my book, you can go onto Amazon and just, you can type in my name, Dr. Thomas Re.
Speaker C:Or you can just do the title, which is the future of Regenerative medicine Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy.
Speaker C:And again.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:So it has the science aspect of it.
Speaker C:It also has a layman's terminology in there.
Speaker C:So we can all follow along the path of Jeff and his quest of understanding about stem cell and topical stem cell.
Speaker C:For Regen, you can look up regen.com, which is R-H-E-E-G-E-N.com and there's a lot of information on there and lot of good topics.
Speaker C:And then if you have any questions, you know, we have a social media site that goes into any type of, like, scenarios of a particular injury or something.
Speaker C:And if you need to get a hold of me there, there should be a little click there that you can go info at Regen.
Speaker C:Just ask me a question and I'll shoot back to you within a couple hours or days, you know, depending on where I'm at, and then I'll get your answers.
Speaker B:Excellent.
Speaker B:Well, I would imagine people have different needs and maybe even reach out to you regarding just anti aging.
Speaker B:Certainly women are always, we're always being programmed.
Speaker B:You've got to look like you're 16 years old, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, it doesn't just stop there.
Speaker C:If I think everybody wants to be 16 years old, I looked at my old pictures.
Speaker C:Oh, look at those days in the Navy.
Speaker C:Look at that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's the perfect age, you know, if people could go back in time with the knowledge we have?
Speaker C:Yeah, very good.
Speaker B:What would you want to look like and feel like?
Speaker B:And wouldn't it be really great?
Speaker B:I mean, do you see that with stem cell therapy that it's going to essentially prolong our lives, but also the quality of life?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So there's like two, like, age spans.
Speaker C:There's a, you know, age.
Speaker C:There's a lifespan and an active lifespan.
Speaker C:And I know that people want to think about the aesthetics and how you look, but I always look at how you feel, you know, that's really important.
Speaker C:How can you keep going?
Speaker C:Exercise, being active, because activity and exercise is such a good mental.
Speaker C:How would you say, almost like a therapeutic way of dealing with other type of mental stress, that physical aspect.
Speaker C:So where I see in the future is that aesthetically, you know, it would definitely go there, but.
Speaker C:But it's about the physical side of it, about allowing yourself to keep going, keep allowing yourself to play that pickleball, play with your grandkids, play with.
Speaker C:Be able to keep moving so you're functioning fine.
Speaker C:And then you're having that, that, that fun feeling of being active as if you're young.
Speaker B:That's what life's about.
Speaker B:You know, if we don't have quality of life, there really isn't life.
Speaker B:You want to be able to participate in life.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:That's the biggest thing to do.
Speaker C:You know, just.
Speaker C:I always say that if you look at, you know, but that's what the beat of the office is.
Speaker C:I get to see all ages in their injury and what set them off into that cascade.
Speaker C:So I'm fortunate to see the future about my life and others with the examples of my patients here.
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:One of the key components is activity.
Speaker C:When you see someone in their 90s, 80s, still active.
Speaker C:And one of the key components, exercise.
Speaker C:Keep moving, keep moving.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:You know, in.
Speaker D:I was nursing for 13 years and I worked four years in orthopedics and we had at the top hip replacement in the country in Canada and knee surgery.
Speaker D:And the thing that was the most noticeable was those that exercised versus those that didn't in their recovery, the ones that constantly exercise, done yoga.
Speaker D:The healing process was almost immediate, as opposed to those who never walked, who never did stairs, it would take the length and time for healing was almost double.
Speaker D:Big difference.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, and that's why I always think about active lifespan.
Speaker C:Being in an 80s, still being active.
Speaker C:You always want to think that I want the ability to continue walking and being competitive in walking, just like as if you're in 20s.
Speaker C:Nothing's.
Speaker C:I can only imagine what it feels like if I'm in my 70s that have a difficult time walking just a quarter mile.
Speaker C:I mean, that would play mental.
Speaker C:That would be mental, like detrimental.
Speaker C:My whole psychological outlook if I can't apply that kind of like physical stress on my body.
Speaker B:Sure, yeah.
Speaker B:We don't feel good.
Speaker B:It affects our mental state.
Speaker B:It's everything.
Speaker B:And people deteriorate, they get depressed, they get discouraged.
Speaker B:It's just a whole body reaction when you think about it.
Speaker B:So Dr. Ree.
Speaker B:What is your website again?
Speaker C:It's www.regen R-H-E-E-G-E-N.com and then again Amazon.
Speaker C:If you look at the Future Regenerative Medicine at Amazon and you can see.
Speaker B:My book there, this has been super informative.
Speaker D:So interesting.
Speaker D:Oh my goodness.
Speaker D:So interesting.
Speaker D:Thank you very much.
Speaker C:Oh you guys are great.
Speaker C:This is so much fun.
Speaker C:You know I loved it.
Speaker B:Well, thank you Dr. Ray.
Speaker B:We appreciate it very much and this has been informative for our listeners.
Speaker B:Yeah, great.
Speaker C:Guys are great, awesome.
Speaker B:We appreciate having you on the show.
Speaker B:Dr. A.
Speaker B:Thanks so much and both Kathy and I have learned a ton.
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